Monday, August 30, 2010
Lost Epilogue
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Starts off at a Dharma Warehouse where a couple of dudes are building the Dharma food drop pallets. They put them on drones that get coordinates from the Lamp Post station.
Ben shows up telling them there's a new man in charge (Hurley) and he tells them they're shutting the place down, they get fat stacks of cash and Ben shows them the Hydra Orientation film cuz they're rightfully dumbfounded. The video doesn't help them much... but it does answer a lot or clarify a lot for us, even if we'd pretty much come up with it ourselves by now anyway. here's what we learned:
- Pierre Chnag says all his different names are used as a security precaution.
- The giant bird that shows up in the first few seasons, "the Hurley Bird", was created by Dharma and they released it on the island.
- The polar bears had the right memory and adaptibility to be a part of Dharma's tests. Once the were smart enough they were collared and sent to the Orchid where we know they were used to move the island and wound up in Tunisia.
- Also alluded to the electromagnetism on the island being the cause of the pregnancy issues.
- Room 23 was used to interrogate Hostiles and then they wiped their minds with the video and some drugs.
The Ben leaves and he goes to visit someone at Santa Rosa Mental Institution.
WALT!!!
I guess he stayed out there after visiting Hurley.
Ben wants Walt to come back to his home to the island because Walt is special and he belongs there. Ben also says even though Michael is dead, Walt can still help him.
They leave and get in a van where Hurley is waiting and he's excited to take Walt back, and he basically tells us that Walt's gonna be the next island protector.
Anyway, it was nice to see, lots of info and great tp see that Walt, Michael, Hurley, Ben all will have a happy ending (Desmond too, cuz if they come and go from the island he can too). Also nice to see that Hurley will be able to see his pals and let his family know what's up. Maybe let other's know what happened to their family too (ex. Jack's Mom).
So good stuff. I'm gonna start my rewatch soon. Come JOIN US!!!
Monday, May 24, 2010
The Final Episode: The End
SHOW NOTES:
- For starters, the music on this series is unbelievable.
- Pretty sure that's the director's dog, also the Jacob Cabin dog painting crossing the street when Hugo and Sayid are going to get Charlie. Neat little note.
- Good piece of acting with Hurley being so happy to see Charlie. Or at least it was real nice to see. Like most of this ep.
- I know it made Peter and myself laugh at the size of the bush Sawyer was hiding behind.
- Good to see Rose/Bernard/Vincent (more on him later). At least they weren't so lame this time. (and from the looks of things they probably enjoy a nice island life with Hurley and whatever other fools show up to the island).
- Richard being alive was good to see.
-Juliet is back as the fertility doctor for Jin and Sun, and we get our first "awakening" of the ep. Pretty heavy stuff, if you didn't get chills watching these scenes then you probably should quit reading this and question whether or not you actually have a soul.
- My bro Pete does bring up a good point... why would they be so happy about realizing they were dead? Well, whatever it is they're preparing to leave for must be pretty great and I think they know that. Could also be an understanding that these weren't REAL lives they'd been leaving... kind of shells. Now they're complete... I dunno.
- Richard's got a grey hair! Jacob's dead so now he's aging. Good thing he didn't go all dude from the Last Crusade who chose the wrong grail.
- LAPIDUS!!!!! What a bad ass.
- Two tribes merge again and we're headed to the center of the island.
- Juliet is Jack's ex wife... sort of figured. What I don't get is why David even exists. I guess he was created to help Jack get over his daddy issues and he could "let go". Actually yeah I like that. Sort of a bummer for Davey though.
- I liked that Desmond didn't actually have all the answers he just thought he did. And I really liked his speech to Jack, even if he was wrong. Jack delivers a very important line: "All of this matters"
- Hurley tells Jack he believes in him. good stuff. The Hurley/Jack interactions really got to me.
- Jack and Locke were BOTH right. Locke needed him to take out the island so he could leave, but Jack was right that it would turn him mortal.
-Good speech from Hugo to Sayid (sorry for jumping on and off island, but it does it so much this ep, its almost impossible not to)
- Shannon's back. Sweet sexy Shannon. And Sayid and her flash. I'm sure some people are worked up over him not being with Nadia, but it never worked with Nadia, she kept getting hurt.
- Boone. How d'ya think he got "enlightened"? Seriously.
- They needed Desmond to unplug the island. (by the way, trying to figure out who built these island contraptions, etc is frankly too much at this point for me to grasp). His condition made it possible. Lots of skeletons down there. Maybe from when they were building it.
- Widmore/Drive Shaft concert. Liam shows up for ZERO lines... nice of him to do it though.
- Charlie sees Claire. Thought Chuck had a real strong episode.
- Jack gets knocked out by a boulder from Locke. His brain is mush at this point.
- Was hoping we'd get more from Eloise this year, but it's pretty clear she had been awakened a long time ago, and was holding onto this world because she enjoyed he time with her son. It was actually kind of a sweet scene. I do wonder why she is against moving on, when everyone else seems to be totally for it. Actually one of my bigger questions from this finale... which is par for the course with Eloise Hawking.
- Claire, Kate and Charlie all flash over. Pretty great scene. More Chills. Actually there were more scenes with chills than without in this ep. Sort of true.
- That tree hitting Ben seemed like it would be a pretty big deal... guess not.
- Epic fight scene between Locke and Jack. we see how Jack gets his sideways world scars. Also, I'm sure you've all noticed how Jack was stabbed in the same spot that the big JC was when he was on the cross. I'll let you figure that one out.
- Kate kills Locke. Kinda cool.
- Jack fixed Locke and he WAKES UP! Jack keeps getting closer and closer.
- Great scene with the Suns and them knowing who Sawyer is, but he doesn't yet.
- I guess the plane was in better shape then I remember, AND it wasn't nearly as big. So, while it's still a stretch... I'm alright with those guys fixing it.
- Good final Sawyer and Jack scene (could of used more of them) but even better Kate and Jack scene. There last REAL WORLD interaction.
- A little bummed out that Hurley didn't really say goodbye to either Sawyer or Kate, but it's awesome he stayed with Jack. Also very cool that Ben wants to go down with the ship.
- Got a little bit of a Frodo/Sam vibe from Jack and Hurley in this ep.
- Sawyer/Juliet. Great stuff. A call back to her dying and recognizing the other world earlier in the season.
- Kate tries to trigger Jack. She says "I've missed you SO much". I think that's proof that she made it off the island with the Ajira flight. She lived a long life and hadn't seen Jack in so long.
- I sort of saw the Hurley transfer of power coming a mile away, but it was still a cool moment between those two. Also a great scene between Ben and Hurley. Desmond's ok too... more on that later. At first I thought Ben was going to try and kill them... but watching it again, he just looks genuinely excited to see some island magic going down.
- Jack gets Desmond to safety and plugs up the island. "I'll see ya in another life brother" Awesome.
Not sure why he didn't become a smoke monster once it started up again. I think it must have had something to do with Mother's rules for Jacob and Smokey. When he did a header into the cavem it would have killed him, which Jacob can't do... so there it seperated his evil black soul. Smoke Monster!
- Kate and Sawyer grab Claire and make it to the plane.
- Ajira makes it off the island... sort of neat to see the passengers:
1- Other
2- Freighters
3 - 815ers
- Ben and Hurley will run the island... more on that below.
- Excellent Locke and Ben scene. Ben says Locke was special. That's as close to a Walt answer as you're going to get. Hope that makes sense.
- Hurley lets Ben know he was a great #2 and Ben says Hurley was a great #1. More PROOF that they lived their lives after the crash. There wouldn't be TWO purgatories. (word?)
- Also, Ben decides to stay. Probably for two reasons, A) he doesn't belong with that group and B) he really does still have some stuff to work out, Alex, Danielle, etc. Good for him.
- Jack makes it to the church and sees CHRISTIAN. Other than the character aspects of this scene, Jack and his father finally having their moment they needed since season 1, Christian says some pretty important things:
1) They're all real. Everything that happened to them was real.
2) There's no time here. They all needed to be there, it started after they were all dead
3) Some died before Jack and some after. Again, Whatever Happened, Happened.
4) They built this place together, they needed each other to remember... and to...
5) let go.
- A happy ending as they all see and greet each other again, and ascend off into... well whatever it is. Together... Live together, die alone. Sorry, went for the cheese there, but if you've been reading for this long I doubt you mind.
- Interspliced with this is Jack (who was launched out of the cave, think something like Eko, Desmond, and Locke after the hatch implosion) slowly making his way back to the bamboo forrest where it all started for him (notice the tennis shoe in the tree from the pilot ep).
- Just as he's laying down to die, Vincent comes down (like in the pilot) and lays down with him to keep him company. I think that one scene affected me more than any other in the history of... well tv I guess.
- Jack looks up and see his friends made it, and the eye closes. I actually believe that they had that scene from very early on. Just perfect.
FINAL THOUGHTS ON THE SIDEWAYS WORLD:
- Some think they were dead this entire time, since the original plane crash... couldn't disagree more.
- EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED ON THE ISLAND HAPPENED. Them leaving, them coming back, them time traveling, it was ALL real. I might be wrong. But I doubt it.
- I don't think this is JUST Jack's purgatory (for lack of a better word). They all had realizations, they all built it together. Others there are still waiting to leave. At some point I'm sure Ben, Alex, Danielle, Eloise, Daniel Faraday, maybe even Charles Widmore, and many others will have their own send off. Of course we won't see that. Someone like Eko? Well the people or person most important to him and his journey was Yemi, so he probably left with him. (also he refused to come back for the show unless they paid him a shit load, but whatever)
- Some things I really can't explain like why Aaron was a little kid and not grown if it was his purgatory... and why Miles wasn't there, seems like he had quite an attachment to some of these guys.
- Long story short, I wouldn't get too hung up on WHO was in the actual church, it was just a nice way to send them off. They all get a happy ending... which some people might think is a big cop out, but it certainly made me happy.
- A lot of it was probably unnecessary, like why the island was at the bottom of the ocean? Certainly some misdirection by the writer's kind of unfair, but whatever, they had to keep the storyline alive all season and keep us guessing as to what it really was. In the end, it was a perfect way to see all their "greatest hits" and bring them all together again. Plus, those scenes where they remember... I mean... c'mon.
SO WHAT HAPPENED AFTER WHAT WE SAW?
- Well, everyone's moved on... they "live" in the afterlife, and all is swell.
- How about in the more immediate future... let's do a final check of where were at:
- The final shots of the beach have been generating a lot of debate. I think it was just a nice shot of the beach again, cuz unfortunately we never really saw it this ep. Also, the typical theme music there is pretty ominous and suspenseful
- Hurley and Ben run the island, with Bernard, Rose and Vincent, and probably the rest of the Others who survived. I'm guessing they find Jack at some point... I hope at least. I like Ben's last line... do it your way (paraphrasing) I'll assume that means he got Desmond off the island... was probably even able to visit his folks and let them know he'd be ok. Hopefully someone talked to the Kwons, and Jack's mom as well.
- Also fun to think about what happened to those guys on the Ajira flight afterwards.
- Frank probably went back to his normal life.
- Miles, same deal, hopefully he had those diamonds still.
- Richard, probably used one of his Mittelos identities to blend in.
- Sawyer, Kate and Claire? That gets a little trickier. Especially for Kate. They're all supposed to be dead, and Kate told everyone that was the case. Ahhh... I'm sure they'll figure it out.
Well... that's about it for now. It's definitely one of my favorite eps of the series, and my favorite series finale ever.
If you've got any more comments let's hear em! What did you think? What did I miss?
Oh, also, mostly for my own benefit, I'll definitely be going through all the eps again and if we don't have an answer for an outstanding question from the show... well... we'll make one up!
A good run. This was fun. Thanks for all who participated.
TV will suck now.
PS. This took a long time to type so I didn't really proof read anything.
Tuesday, May 18, 2010
Episode 16: What They Died For
THIS WHOLE FUCKING THING JUST GOT ERASED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DAMNIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So quick and dirty now.... god Im furious.
Off Island:
Jack's neck is cut again, that will be important.
Locke WANTS the surgery now, because...
Desmond beat the shit out of Ben and Ben "remembered" and helped convince Locke that something was up!
Desmond is also working on getting everyone together still through a variety of methods.
Essentially Desmond and now Hurley (who I wonder why he's so fully behind Desmond's plan, what are the ramifications of this world?) are gonna get everyone in one place... the Concert/Museum event. Including Jack's ex wife which will be Juliette.
Who haven't we seen this year? Eko, Shannon, Walt? Any other regulars?
On-Island:
I had a lot of my favorite things here, but let's go over the two important things from Jack's group:
- Young Jacob needed his ashes to become full Jacob, and he got to do that, because he can't be killed until he's chosen his successor. There! An answer! Even if we had to come up with most of it by ourselves
- The candidates coudl be anyone... which bugs me, because it seems like the RULES would prevent Smokey from killing anyone? Why cross ANYONE off the list? I know Jacob only wants someone who has nothing else going on, but whatever.
- Jack takes the gig, but hopefully he won't get stuck with it... cuz he's rad and the job sucks.
- Widmore and Zoe are dead... hopefully not Richard. Miles bolts. Ben is on Locke's side... not really. I don't buy it. He's gonna turn on him. Also... Miles STILL hasn't heard Smokey speak.. does that mean he can still kill him?
- Before Ben killed him, Widmore let Locke know that (and us... actually he didn't tell this ALL to Locke) that Jacob brought him back to the island, and he brought Desmond, because of his Magneto like powers... and he might be able to stop Locke.
- So they go to get him (Des) but he's gone!!! Who helped him? (Lapidus?) Even still, Locke plans on using him to destroy the island.
OK... where is everyone?
MIA:
- Claire
- Miles
- Bernard, Rose, and Vicnent
- Lapidus (dead?)
- Richard (dead?)
- Desmond
Jack, Sawyer, Hurley, Kate (Jacob is probably gone at this point)
Locke, Ben
Others... doubt we'll see them again
Widmore's crew... they're all dead as far as I'm concerned.
Ok... well I had a ton more, but I'm beyond pissed and don't want to deal with it now after it was all lost. Hopefully I'll add mroe stuff as the day goes on, cuz...
I'm going as cold turkey as I can with the Internet over the next few days. Avoid Spoilers. So I'll need this for my fix. PLEASE TALK TO ME. Don't bring outside stuff.
Ok, what'd ya think? What did I miss?
Tuesday, May 11, 2010
Episode 15: Across The Sea
Ok, seriously... pretty disapointed. I know they can't ANSWER a lot of this stuff... but don't even try if this is what you're gonnna hit us with.
Quick rundown of some thoughts... I'll do more later:
- Still don't know Smokey's name... but we did meet his crazy mother who he alluded to.
- So whoever runs the island can make the rules. Not sure why they wouldn't make them more stringent though.
- Seems like her biggest rule is Jacob and ? can't hurt each other. Jacob obvioucly made a bunch more rules.
- Smokey can see dead people. Interesting.
- Thought it was a little weird that Jacob continues to bring people to the island if he's supposed to protect it from them. Whatever.
- Saw how Smokey got made. Ok
- Saw how the frozen donkey wheel was put into play... not sure how these idiots figured it would warp them off the island. Whatever.
- Was the Temple built on top of the Golden Spring?
- So Lady? and Man? are Adam and Eve. Not sure how there clotehs have lasted over a htousand years... but at least its a solid answer.
-I could have used one more scene where some of the rules were discussed, and then some Jacob interaction with Richard. But alas we'll never get it.
I have a bunch more I'd like to say but I'm too tired and frustrated.
Well... two more eps to go.
Thursday, May 6, 2010
The Candidate Revisited
Just thought I'd give it a little more detail. Notes on the ep. So here we go... just straight through the ep. Probably a lot of repeating...
Off Island:
- Locke wakes up and tells Jack "I know you" the first of a ton of hints about the other world. Sure he met him in the airport, but it felt like more.
- Jack thinks Locke is a "candidate" for a new surgery. The first reference to the title.
- Bernard seems to remember the Locke case pretty closely... and he seems to almost understand what's going on.
- Jack really gets the Flight 815 references this ep.
- Poor Anthony Cooper. Just kidding.
- "Push the button" "I wish you had believed me" more overlapping of the worlds
- Claire and Jack share another mirror moment, and an Apollo bar, and an 815 reference... really starting to bug Jack
- Sounds like Christian's fate was almost identical in both worlds. Wonder if there's anything to that.
- Nice of Jack to let Claire stay with him.
-Locke seeing Jin... and he recognizes him... another hint at the world's colliding... but also a hopeful reminder that there COULD be some saving them all still. Not sure if I like it or not.
- Just an AWESOME scene by M Fox and Terry O'quinn.
- "I wish you believed me" again.
On Island:
- Widmore locks em up, and he seems to know about the list of candidates. Not sure how. Either he IS working with Smokey, or maybe Eloise told him... since she knows everything else.
- Sayid says the Others scattered... I hope we see them again and they maybe meet up with Richard's team.
- Why DID Locke save Jack from the mortar blasts? I guess he knew he needed him to get to the other candidates.
- Sawyer gives us confirmation again that Kate's name was crossed out in the cave... still dont know about the lighthouse.
- Sun gives Jin back his wedding ring, but no mention of the DS ring from Charlie for Aaron. I guess we definitely won't see it now.
- You'd think Widmore's pylons would be tougher to knock out then just cutting the power.
- Kate still wants Jack to come home
- Sawyer thanks Jack. Nice of him.
- So the plane was gaurded my Widmore goons, did they rig the plane? Seems like Widmore would know that Locke wasn't ACTUALLY gonna get off the island that way. Either Widmore's an idiot or he really did want all the 815'ers to die.
- Who rigged the plane? Richard's team? Guess they didn't really care that it would kill their "friends".
- Still think it's lame that they REALY thought the plane would take off... and still might?
- Locke shows them the C4, when did he have time to rig it? Oh well.
- I think Sawyer thought the water would neutralize Locke.. maybe it slowed him down... I dunno.
- Two dudes on the sub... hope they made it out ok. Just kidding. Fuck em.
- Awesome line from Jack in response to Locke's pleading to leave the island: "JOhn Locke told me I needed to stay" BOOM cross check into the water.
- Locke is really lucky Kate got shot. Otherwise Jack never gets on the sub with the bomb. Another point for the Widmore is on Locke's side argument.
- Claire is a sniper!!!!
- They leave Claire again? Sawyer is a dick.
-Just remembering the Locke / Claire season 2 or 3 stuff. Kind of crazy they're still hanging out.
- God no. The bomb.
- I think Jack is exactly right about the rules
- Jack's line about trusting him was probably a pretty dumb thing to say to Sawyer, since the last time he trusted him around a bomb it got Juliet killed.
- Sayid's line to Jack... "It's going to be you Jack" Could be as simple as, you'll be the one to stop Locke, or does he somehow know more about Jack being THE Candidate
- Sayid goes out saving his friends, and is a GOOD person. Strong exit. I got chills. There's a really cool slomo shot of him running.
- Like I said... still holding out hope for Lapidus.
- THERE IS NO SAYID. Powerful stuff.
- When Sawyer gets knocked out I remember saying "Jesus Christ!"
- More powerful stuff with Jin and Jack. They both know they're dead. Pretty emotional.
- What can you say about Jin and Sun. At least they died together. That made it a little easier to take. Seriously rough stuff. Great job by both of them.
- That damn (great) song.
- Just the four of them left... for now. (same four who were called to other side of the island in season 2 with Michael. Im sure its just a coincidence, but kind of neat).
- They all breakdown. More great performances.
I think this goes down as a top 10 episode.
Tuesday, May 4, 2010
Episode 14: The Candidate
This is basically a taste of how rough the finale will be cuz then they're all gone. And they just wiped out THREE original cast members. Sun. Jin. (Ji Yeon and orphan now) Sayid (went out a good guy though).
I really don't have a ton to add to this ep. I'm tired... defeated... depressed.
Off-Island... it's all bleeding over. TONS of hints at them realizing the other world.
On Island... heartbreak.
Sun and Jin... at least they died together. Very sad about Ji Yeon though. They were back together for about a day. Very sad. And did they REALLY have to show them slipping away at the end. It's a good thing I hap company to watch this with.
Sayid... looks like Desmond's words had an impact. He died a good guy. Trying to save his friends.
He also had some very interesting words for Jack. He told him where to find a very much ALIVE Desmond.... and that Jack would be IT... or something like that. He must be the candidate.
Poor Claire is stuck with Locke... could she be his replacement? Brother/sister Jack/Claire... were Locke and Jacob brothers? I hope Claire doesn't get screwed.
Next week's ep looks like the one we've been waiting for... Man In Black and Jacob.
This is very sad but I couldn't help make the connection between Sawyer pulling the wire and Jack dropping Jughead. And YES, I know Sawyer made the more logical move... but I think Jack spelled out the rules. MiB can't kill them. They had to do it themselves. No way the bomb was going off without some help.
We're left with...
Jack
Kate (but for how long?)
Hurley
Sawyer
Widmore?
His chick?
Cronies?
The Others?
Cindy and the Kids? (doubt we'll see ANY of them anymore)
Locke
Claire
Desmond
and...
Lapidus. DID YOU SEE A DEAD BODY? Me neither. He's alive until I hear otherwise.
Sorry... just trying to leave on a happy note.
That was a tough one.
Thoughts?
I didn't say much, but what can ya say?
Tuesday, April 20, 2010
Episode 13: The Last Recruit
Off Island:
So Sun recognizes Locke... cuz she's dying! Another flash. Be interesting to see what she says in future episodes.
Other possible flashes are being set up:
- Desmond is trying to get Claire together with Jack (and Ilana, but who cares about her blown up ass), but that flash trigger is interrupted by...
- Jack being called to perform surgery on Locke... which I sort of already predicted. This will have huge implications when Jack saves him. Just not sure what they'll be.
On Island:
- The Jack and Locke talk had some nice "revelations":
1. Smoke monster needs you to be dead before he can impersonate you.
2. He was Christian.
Not sure if I believe 1. don't believe 2.
- The Jack and Claire reunion was nice. But I've really been waiting for Jack to take a big brother type role. He did for a blink and then bailed on her again. Kind of disappointed me there.
- Although didn't Claire say Locke told her he was pretending to be Christian? Wouldn't that indicate to her that he led her away from the others and THAT'S how she got left on the island? Why would she be happy or even close to ok with that?
- Hey Cindy and the stupid kids are still around!!! I've given up on getting any answers on Other conversion or history their... so frankly I hope they were blown up in the same Widmore bombs that the rest of those neandrathal looking mother fuckers were.
- Great Desmond/Sayid scene. No way Desmond is dead. No way.
- Claire makes it anyway... to the boat. Pretty sad that they almost left her again.
- Jack "jumps ship". Good Juliet apology though (still thinking she'll be Sawyer's "flash").
- The Jin and Sun reunion was nice, but was anyone else kind of worried that those pylons were gonna fry em?
- Widmore duoble crosses Sawyer... but not really. Didn't Sawyer say he'd deliver Locke? Well he didn't. And why the fuck did Sawyer think just showing up would work anyway?
- Meanwhile... it's Jack and Locke.... DA DA DAAAAAAAA!!!!
Getting good!
No ep next week... boooooo
Ok, what did I miss? What did you think?
Tuesday, April 13, 2010
Episode 12: Everybody Loves Hugo
Off-Island:
So we continue the theme of true love, or at least some SERIOUS connection, a CONSTANT if you will... will trigger your memory of the "other" world. Hugo and Libby were more proof of that.
Also, seems pretty clear what Desmond decided he needed to do, and that is to trigger these memories from certain indivduals. Well... it seemed like his mission was clear... until he WIPED OUT LOCKE!!! Gotta have something to do with his on-island self... which is still pretty vague... but he would have a bone to pick with Locke, wouldn't he? That brings us to the Island storylines...
On-Island:
Locke takes fearless Desmond to another electro magnetic hotspot... then rumble dumps him. (SPOILER ALERT: Previews showed him alive, or I'd be outraged) Sort of saw that coming from a ways away. Surprised Desmond didn't... what with his future seeing powers... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Meanwhile, on the other side of the island... Ilana Arzt'd herself. Seriously... good job Jacob body guards. I mean I guess Ilana served her purpose, but I really thought there would be more to her.
Anyway, ultimately Richard, Ben and Miles go for the ammo and explosives at the Dharma barracks (cuz Hurley blew up the Black Rock) to try and blow up the plane... but Hurley thinks they should go talk to Locke, cuz dead Michael told him so. Good to see Michael back and get a little more closure. (fingers still crossed for Walt).
Awesome stuff here with Jack and Hurley. Great scene. ALSO... the whispers EXPLAINED! The whispers are the trapped souls on the island. THERE'S YOUR ANSWERS!!!
Michael helps them find Locke's camp and the two parties converge with the stare down of Jack and Locke. Love it.
A couple of other funny notes:
- Anyone else hear Hugo mention his next charity event was for the Human Fund? George Costanza!!!
- Jack and Richard had some funny banter after Ilana blew herself up (seriously, what the fuck was she thinking throwing that shit around like that) but line of the night goes to Sawyer again: "You talk to wood now?"
- Nice Sam Levine cameo. Not a huge celeb... but Freaks and Geeks/Inglorious Basterds need to be celebrated.
That's what I got for now. Not sure why, but one of my favorites of the season.
What did I miss?
What did you think?
Good night... and good luck.
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
Episode 11: Happily Ever After
So Desmond is once again special and he seems to have figured SOMETHING out. Only he won't share it with us the viewers.
Faraday is on to it as well... somehow. So is Charlie... somehow.
And it appears that Eloise knows ALLLLLL about it. Seems happy about it too. Why not... her son is alive and well.
So you need true love to connect to the other world?
What does Desmond know? How'd he figure it out? Why'd he want to help Widmore but then suddenly go with Sayid (who saved Desmond... for some reason).
What does Desmond want to show the 815ers?
What is Widmore's plan? How can Desmond help? (looks like he survived another Magnetic blast or whatever, just ike he did when he turned the failsafe key).
I have no clue.
Classic Lost epsiode. We're ramping up, with hints at answers but nothing really.
My head's spinning.
Your thoughts?
The End.
Tuesday, March 30, 2010
Episode 10: The Package
Off-Island:
Jin and Sun ain't married but they screw... and are in love too.
They filled in how Jin got in the locker and even our old friend Mikhail showed up... lost his eye again too.
Now... depending on what you think these "side flashes" are, Sun getting shot could have HUUUUGE implications. Alot of people seem to think these side flashes might be the epilogue to the story, the aftermath of the Jacob vs Man In Black war. Whoever you chose.. right or wrong, it impacts your alternate life. I'll elaborate a little later on in the week with what I THINK might happen... but either way... pretty bad news for Sun. I hope she's ok :(
On - Island:
Not a ton to comment on here, it was a great episode though.
- Widmore's peeps took Jin because he knows where the electro-magnetism is on the island, (because of the search grids he was running for Sawyer back in the Dharma days... which brings to mind... why didn't any of the Others ever realize that Sawyer and Jin were actually back in Dharmaville for an extended time??!? Chalk that up to "we'll never know"). Either the magnetism will help them defeat the Locke monster or Widmore has alterior motives. Something to keep an eye on.
- Looks like Sayid is a shell of the man he once was... literally. Locke takes him along to get Jin back.
- Locke wants Jin back cuz he might be a candidate. He seems to be implying he needs their help to get off the island. I'll bet he just needs them dead... but he can;'t do it. For some island rule reason. Still like to hear those.
- Anyone else worried anytime someone says they are taking the outriggers? One of them is getting shot by Juliette from last season.
- Just before they leave.. Sawyer has one of the best lines in the history of the show: "No, cuz that'd be ridiculous" That killed me.
- Locke confronts Widmore... stand off.. even quote Widmore back to him... when he was Locke. Anyway...
- Locke returns empty handed... but no Sayid either... who is spying on the sub and what happened to be in that locked door.... DESMOND!!! Sayid didn't seem to care, cuz he's crazy.. and Desmond is all drugged up. Good to have him back though ( but from the looks of the preview and the bagpipes playing Amazing Grace... I think he might be in trouble.)
- On the other side... long story short... Sun can't talk, but Jack figured it out and she can at least communicate now. She's on board with Richard's plan... they want to blow up the plane so Smokey can't leave. Really? That's how he was going to leave? No fracking way. Anyway...
What did I miss? What do you think?
Gonna try and post a prediction thread later this week... might be fun if others (heehee) chime in.
Later.
Tuesday, March 23, 2010
Episode 9: Ab Aeterno
Seriously, half the season is over.
Well this was a very revealing episode... but I don't have a ton to add.
Huge reveals. Richard was a prisoner on the Black Rock and it was launched into the statue and shattered it. (Pretty crummy explanation, but I'll take it. I guess Jacob conjured up a HUGE storm). The island is a place to contain the evil that is Smokey (if we believe Jacob).
Richard acts as Jacob's mouthpiece.
And thanks to Hurley (and Isabella) it would appear that his crisis of faith is over.
Don't think I'm dismissing this ep, I thought it was great... but what we learned is pretty clear cut. And what we still don't know... Who to trust? What's Smokey's name? etc. is still up in the air.
Couple of things that I noted:
- Captain Hanso.... always figured that was how Alvar Hanso and Dharma intially found the island, but they all got wiped out in the crash so.... also... how the hell did the ship's log make it off the island? (the one Widmore was bidding on back in the Constant)
- The knife is back. Special knife.
- Why do the Others kill? If Richard is speaking for Jacob... why does Jacob get involved? I thought he was hands off? Or maybe it;'s just the leaders who make the call and Richard has to follow their lead. How'd they start anyway? Jacob told him to?
Questions like those can go on and on and I've formulated a number of answers, but not sure anyone cares. Let's see if we can get a dialogue going on this thread, and if not... well i'll keep it to myself.
Also, one of you Bibley people want to chime in about the wine? Who give who wine in the Bible to pass the time? anyone?
Next week's looks like a Sun and Jin episode. Going down the home stretch.
Anyway, what did you all think?
Tuesday, March 16, 2010
Episode 8: Recon
Off Island:
- He's a cop you idiot!!!
- So who shows up... Miles, Charlotte, Liam Pace... and oh, he catches Kate at the end (my bro caught this... Why'd he let Kate leave the airport when he knew she was in cuffs?)
- Sounded like Ford was going after Anthony Cooper... which is weird since he still seems like he;s pals with Locke. So did he cause Ford's family situation and then reform? I dunno.
- Anyone been noticing that each of our Losties have taken long looks at their reflections in each flash sideways? Hmmmm.... WHAT COULD THAT SYMBOLIZE or be hinting at?
- Few side notes:
A) Jodi Lynn O'Keefe... what did she decide to get hot again? Anyone see her on Prison Break.. it wasn't pretty. She looked smokin' tonight though. Good for her.
B) That James Ford... he banged 'em all. Seriously... by my count the only major character he didn't have an excuse for not jamming, was Libby. He bagged Charlotte, Kate, Juliette, Ana-Lucia... and had pretty decent excuses for the rest: Sun (married), Claire (preggers), Nikki (never knew who she was), Rose (old). Pretty impressive stuff Sawyer.
On Island:
- Sawyer stayed back to take care if Jin. Which is cool... but every time they send Sawyer down the dark path, they quickly bring him back to being a pretty decent guy. From the looks of things, he isn't running ENTIRELY solo... he'll try and bring his friends along. I was kind of hoping that Sawyer would be the 2nd in command bad dude and then turn on Locke at the end... guess not.
- Locke tells the Others that the Black Smoke killed the people at the Temple. Truuuuuue... but he later tells Sawyer the truth. I guess he feels some people can handle it and others (haha) can't. Looks like Sayid knows... and speaking of Sayid....
- He looks pretty crazy to me still. And Claire's right there too. When will someone ask Claire why she just left her baby in the trees?
- It MUST have been Smokey acting as Christian when she left the fire back in season 4. Cuuuuzzz.... Locke seems to have interest in her being crazy and being Aaron's mother.... just like his mommy. I think this was a big deal. Anyone reading this read the Bible? Are there any crazy mother's int hat book? Seriously, I'm asking.
- Last thing her before Sawyer returns (oh wait he left, better get to that in a second...). Really looks like Locke is working on Kate. Not sure she's buying in though.
- So Locke sends Sawyer on a "recon" mission. There's a plane they can use to get off the island!!!! Yeah fucking right.
- All the Ajira people are dead. (I'm betting Widmore was telling the truth and he didn't kill them... Smokey did).
- Sawyer gets snagged by Zoe and Widmore's people. They're setting up there base (with those pylons).
- No clue what Widmore's end game is... probably island control, and I guess he wants to get rid of the smoke monster, but I'm not even sure that's what he wants. Anyway... those tools he has working for him are my new #1 candidates for being shot by Juliette in the outriggers when they were time skipping... remember that?
- Sawyer heads back and it looks like he just wants to play both sides and create chaos. Then escape on the sub... with Kate... and I'm assuming Jin and Sun... since he said he would. He likes Miles and Hurley too right? Jack's probably in trouble though. Anyway, that plan is bullshit. None of them know how to pilot a sub. Minor detail.
- Next week.... Richard Alpert. Fairly excited for that.
Ok, what did you all think? What did I miss?
Wednesday, March 10, 2010
Episode 7: Dr. Linus
Off-Island:
Ben Linus works at the highschool w/ Dr. Arzt. Yeah. I thought that Alex Rousseau being his student was the biggest stretch yet of the "sideways" world we're seeing.
Anyone notice Ben gave his Dad some gas again? Although it worked about better for Mr. Linus this time around.
Interesting to note that Ben and his Dad DID go to the island and left at some point. Interesting... but it still doesn't prove whether or not this is the world as a RESULT of the incident, the result of something else, or an entirely different world all together.
This isn't a spoiler but it's a pretty realistic theory that is making the rounds so I'll give you fair warning
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Ok back to it.
On-Island, 2 Groups: Jack's and Ilana's
Jack's:
- Jack and Hurley are heading back to the Temple but Richard takes them to the Black Rock instead.
- Richard makes plenty of blatant hints that this is how he arrived on the island.
- Richard also leaves some tidbits. Jacob touched him, that's why he doesn't age... it was a gift. But now after Jacob's death Richard is pretty disillusioned and what's to die... only he can;t kill himself... the Island? won't let him. Sound familiar? (maybe Jacob touched Michael back at some point).
- Jack says he'll do it, but he hangs out cuz he know he won't die. He's right. He says they should all go back to the beach.
- The great thing about this for me, other than the fine acting, was the set up for a Richard episode. He's getting closer to talking.
Ilana's group:
- I was wondering how Ben got away from the temple. But as we find out later, Smokey didn't want him dead.
- Ben identifies Dogen (and the translator) so he clearly knew about the Temple, etc. Nice to know.
- Miles outs Ben and they head back to the beach... cuz that place is totally safe.
- Sun gets some info from Ilana: They are candidates to replace Jacob. There are six left and we still don't know which Kwon. Who are the 6th now though? Definitely Jack, Hurley, Sawyer and a Kwon. That's 4. Let's incllude the other Kwon cuz they can't be eliminated, 5. 6th? Locke is dead. I guess they meant Sayid. But I would've assumed he removed himself from the running by killing two of Jacob's best dudes and leading to the rest of them being wiped out. Just a thought.
- Smokey shows up to tell Ben he wants him to run the island when he and his crew leave. I'm sure this is bullshit... but still, why? Why does Smokey still need/want Ben? Why didn't he just wipe out the whole beach camp? Must have something to do with the candidates... maybe it is Sun? I dunno.
- Also, so he can jedi mind move items. Ben's ankle shackle. Cooooool.
The show ends with Jack, Hurley and Richard showing up to the beach with a reunion scene straight outta yesteryear.
The end... or is it?
Widmore!!! He found the island... they better tell us how. Is this who Jacob said was coming to the island? What's he want to do? Who's side is he on?
Anyway... sorry it's late... what did you guys think?
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Episode 6: Sundown
Off-Island stuff first:
- Sayid can't be with Nadia, because he doesn't think he is worthy of her. And he protects his family by killing loan sharks (who happen to be our old buddies Keamy and Omar) and then finds a beat up Jin in a cooler. It was well acted and junk... but let's get to the serious business.
Island:
- Sayid confronts Dogen and they argue, before fighting and Dogen is ready to kill Sayid when his baseball hits the floor. Weird at the time but after you hear his story later, it kind of makes sense... Dogen was reminded of his kid and why he came to the island and his island responsibilities. Plus... I don't think you can kill a candidate. It's one of the "rules".
- Outside Claire is ready to be sent in by Smokey. She makes him promise he is really going to get her son back for him. He says "He always does what he promises". She tells Dogen to go talk to Smokey or send someone he won't kill. He won't kill Sayid... why? well because he has a plan for him... but also... he CAN'T (guessing) cuz he's a candidate!!!
- Dogen wants Sayid to kill Smokey. Is that a special knife? I dunno. But you can't let him talk to you!!!!!
- Pretty cool that Sayid just goes for it right away, but it doesn't work. Stabs him in the chest and... nothin'. Probably cuz Smokey got a few words out... and you can't let him talk to you. I hope that's not the case. To gimmicky. But basically both sides are trying to use Sayid to accomplish things... and it looks like Smokey makes the best offer. WHATEVER HE WANTS. Well I'm guessing, like Claire wants Aaron, Sayid wants Nadia (sorry Shannon).
- Sayid tells the Others that they need to leave by sundown and join Smokey otherwise... he's gonna kill them all. And basically half the Others bolt (including Cindy and the two kids... the only three Others I know now... well and Alpert). Seriously though, nice conviction Others! Jacob's dead? Ok, we quit. What is their purpose? Any ideas?
- Oooh, almost forgot, my faaaaaavorite, Kate made it back into the temple... rather easily. Visits a now captured Claire... and does a pretty crappy job of explaining to her why she took Aaron. Claire looks furious but doesn't really do anything about it. Maybe she buys it. I don't know. Claire is bat shit crazy.
- Sayid confronts (and by confronts I mean drowns) Dogen. But... not before a nice little piece of information from Dogen. Dogen was brought to the island by jacob after he got in a drunk driving accident that would have killed his son had Jacob not intervened. (So Jacob has healing powers?!?? Maybe he really did cure Juliet's sisters cancer. Does Smokey have healing powers too? Sayid better hope so.).
- So Dogen is dead... literally seconds after I started to like him. Never really liked Lennon... so when Sayod kills him it wasn't to big of a loss, but it was funny that he called Sayid an idiot. Interesting that DOGEN was what was keeping Smokey out. I thought it was the ash? HEY LOOK AT THAT!!!! A MILLION MORE QUESTIONS!!!
- Smokey... kills everyone.
- Kate and Miles try to escape:
- Miles... runs away and ultimately runs into Ilana, Lapidus, Sun and Ben. They escape through the Hurley tunnel. Well, Ben doesn't... he goes to get Sayid (which is kind of nice right? Or maybe Ilana has clued them into the candidate thing a little more). Sayid isn't leaving and Ben bolts. Sayid looks legit Claire crazy too.
- Kate ends up going to get Claire, but just barely escapes the Smoke... which seems to really make an impact on her. She's enthralled by it. Anyway...
Sayid and Claire walk out to meet Locke and the Other. Kate trails behind. Claire doesn't kill her... so she's cool with it? Smokey didn't seem to be too stoked that she was there though.
Sooooo...
it looks like the teams are starting to fill out. Let's do a quick ON ISLAND ONLY recap of where everyone's at:
Team Smokey:
Locke/Smokey
Claire
Sayid
The Others
Kate (at least along for the ride)
Sawyer (wasn't there,but he made it pretty clear he was with Smokey)
Jin (doubt he's with them... but I'll bet they didn't let him go. And what if Smokey promises Jin he can reunite him with his wife? Uh oh.)
Team Jacob:
Ilana
Lapidus
Miles
Sun
Probably with Jacob... but not with those four yet:
Jack & Hurley
Ben
Richard
I think that's everybody... that we know of right now, right? Anyone else? Other than the Ajira 316 jabronis that are still stuck on Hydra island (actually kind of wondering what will become of them).
Anyway... that's what I got here. What did everyone think?
Tuesday, February 23, 2010
Episode 5: The Lighthouse
Jack Off-Island:
- Jack interacting with his kid was nice to see. Wonder who the mom is?
- Also thought they were giving us another big hint with him not recognizing his appendix scar.. but then his mom explained it.
- Good character story... but still need to know how much I should invest in this before I care tooooo much about it.
Jack On-Island, Hurley and Jack's journey:
- Hurley tells Jack that Jacob says "He has what it takes" which is a reference to what Jack's dad said... the opposite, back in season 1. Christian told Jack not to be a hero cuz he doesn't have it in him.
- A little bummed that Jack was cool with bailing on Sayid (and Miles to a lesser extent... got a bad feeling about Miles... like he might end up a body count kill for Smokey).
- They run into Kate. Fuck off Kate. Honestly. I don't know why, but her little interaction with Jack pissed me off. Was I the only one?
- Hurley thinks Jack would have been a great dad. That was nice of him to say.
- They find the old caves. Two things: 1) Hurley makes a joke about the Adam and Eve skeletons, basically making fun of idiots like me who have too many theories and 2) Jack tells Hurley about his ghost dad. Which is funny, because if he had told ANYONE else that they would have freaked out. Par for the course with Hurley.
- Jack's reason for coming back: "He's broken". Good stuff. Seriously.
- I was shocked that they wouldn't have seen the Lighthouse, but Hurley kind of explained that... "We weren't looking for it"
- Ok... the Lighthouse: 1) The name again... each has a degree, makes a liiiiiitle more sense about the numbers assigned. 2) Looks like how Jacob was able to keep tabs on candidates, but how does he find out about candidates in the first place? 3) Also, if Jacob had the names and numbers here, why would he need them in the cave? Well, maybe it's a Smokey set up for Sawyer. 4) The mirror visions, to me, looked like the place Sun and Jin got married, and the church where the funeral services were held for Sawyer's parents. (that didn't match up with their numbers/degrees but oh well). 5) My bro said it best... I wish Jack hadn't smashed the mirror before it got to 108.
- Noticed on the replay that Austen was #51 and it wasn't crossed out!!! Interesting...
- So who do we think is coming to the island? Eloise Hawking? Charles Widmore? My money is on Desmond. Not sure why.
- Who do we think is coming to the Temple with bad intentions? Well...
Claire and Jin's little shack:
- Claire is fucking nuts. She may be infected and "claimed" but she's also nuts.
- So Claire says Christian ("her dad") told her the Others took her kid, and then her friend did as well. So this would lead us to believe that, at least in this specific case, Smokey WAS posing as Locke.
- Fake Locke shows up and Jin is freaked, but Claire says it's her friend and not John. So she knooooows it ain't Locke. Must have something to do with her infection/claimedness.
Anyway, what did I miss? What do you think?
Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Episode 4: The Substitute
Well off island stuff is a little easier to grasp, so let's start there:
Locke seems waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay happier actually engaged to Helen, who's alive, and drops an interesting line about bringing her parents and HIS father the a shotgun wedding in Vegas. Soooo... is Cooper not a con man, is he a good dude?
Not much else other than Hurley and Rose showing up... until Ben. So Ben made it off the island. Either the bomb never really went off, or it did, but it only sloooowly sunk the island and he evacuated in time.
Ok... good stuff noew. On the island the shit hit the fan.
Let's starts with Ilana's group:
- She grabs some Jacob ash... should come into play.
- She thinks they should go to the Temple. Cuz it's safe.
- She says the Man in Black won't be able to turn into other shapes anymore... ok. Not sure why, but he's stuck as Locke or Smokey.
- She convinces Sun to go to the Temple... but only cuz Jin is there... probably. How's she know about Jin anyway? Jacob must've told her.
- They bury Locke. Bummer scene. Locke deserved better. Which is why I'm still not ready to give up on seeing a real life Locke again. Not sure how, but I bet it happens.
Alrighty. Now the good stuff. Smokey/Man In Black/Locke (We'll just call him Locke from now on) and Sawyer:
- Locke is cruising in smoke form all over the island looking for peeps... finds Sawyer. I'm interested in why the smoke monster didn't do this more or show up more earlier in the series. I suppose he was taking a wait and see approach?
- Before Locke can go get Sawyer, he's gotta deal with Alpert.
- I don't think you can take too much from their exchange. It's like old Ben conversations. Who do we believe and why? Richard stays with Team Jacob and tells Locke to focke off. HAHAHAHAH Oh and he sees a kid in the woods. Locke does. Kind of freaks him out. Looked like he was filthy and had some blood on his hands.
- After getting Sawyer to come with him, they run into the kid again (who Sawyer can see... maybe because he's a candidate?). Kid tells Locke "You can't kill him" (Locke freaks out with a tribute scream to old Locke).
- I think the kid is a new young Jacob. Jacob needs a replacement (which we find out he was looking for later in this episode.) Since he died... he got "rebooted". I think he was telling Locke he can't kill Sawyer. Why would he want to? I think he's full of shit and he's lying to Sawyer. He's gonna find some way to get all of the "candidates" killed. (Sidenote... the kid looked like Claire... is it out of this world to think it might be some weird version of Aaron?)
- At the cave there's the blatant white/black rocks. Could be a lead into revisiting the Adam and Eve rocks.
- All the candidates are listed on the walls. Is this Jacob's infamous List? If so the reports we'd heard about it earlier we bullshit (Pickett mentioned Jack wasn't on it, and Mikhail mentioned a number of people as not being worthy.... so who knows what info they really had).
- The numbers reappear... but Locke sort of dismissed their significance.
- Here's the list of candidates not crossed out (that they showed at least):
4-Locke (now crossed out)
8-Reyes
15-Ford
16-Jarrah
23-Shephard
42-Kwon (which one?)
No Kate or Miles or other Kwon... hmmmm..
Other names I saw?
- Troupe (long story but the dude who was sucked into the jet engine in the pilot.
- Goodspeed (could be Ethan or the Dharma leader)
and the biggie
313- Littleton... so this might confirm that Claire is actually dead.
Looks like Sawyer is gettin' the fudge outta dodge. Can't wait for next week.
One more thing though... a little half backed theory... Locke/Smokey and Jacob both are looking for replacements to take their spot on the island. That;s what they need to do to leave. Or something... even though Jacob didn't seem like he wanted to... like I said half baked...
So Smokey could get... Ben?
and Jacob.... Jack (too obvious) maybe Hurley?
Anyway what did I miss and what do you rad folks think?
Sorry for any typos. Very tired. Going to bed.
Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Episode 3: What Kate Does
Not a toooon happened in the Alt. world:
- I didn't see Desmond... so forget my old comic book theory.. for now.
- There were definitely some moments where Kate was "remembering" things... like when she saw Jack outside the airport, and discussing Aaron. Looks like we're still headed towards some unification of these worlds.. I think.
- Ethan. Nice. Looks like he must have stayed evacuated form the island after the incident.
Ok... so on the Island:
- Sayid is alive... but the Others need to run some tests to see if he is "claimed" or not... turns out he is but Jack saves him from taking a poison pill. Sounds like whatever Sayid has is very close to the original "sickness" finally might be getting some answers about that.
- One quick note... Jack asks Dogen how he got to the island... Dogen responds "You know how I got here", or something like that. Normally this kind of answer would just piss me off. But I actually think it answers enough for us. Just like that conversation on the beach between Jacob and MIB... people are brought or drawn to the island. That may be all we need to know. I doubt there were any island natives, people were always brought there, and they make up the Others.
- The big reveal was the return of Claire, and that she too had been "claimed". I can only assume they mean the MIB (Man In Black) is who claimed them. So when did it happen to Claire? Did she die after that explosion? Was MIB posing as Christian when he got her to come with him? Has MIB always been Christian? I'd say this is more evidence of that.
- From what Aldo and Justin (the Others) alluded to, it sounds like Claire has been setting traps all over the island for a while now... which would lead me to believe she wasn't time skipping with everyone else. MAYBE because she was claimed! And MAYBE that's why Richard and Co. don't time travel either, cuz they were claimed by the other side, Jacob. Just a thought....
- One interesting note... I didn't catch it the first time... Justin stops Aldo from shooting Jin, because "He (Jin) might be one of them" Aldo questions that or not.... might be referring to Jacob's new List that was in the guitar case... or something else.
And finally... after the reveal that the sickness and being claimed are apparently to very real things, I'm left wondering, who has the MIB/Smokey posed as and who was actually reanimated as a claimed person... or whatever. Maybe there's no difference. I dunno.
Anyway, what did the rest of yas think?
Thursday, February 4, 2010
Episode 1& 2: LA X, Upon Further Review...
1. Where'd Jin get that fat stack of cash he was traveling with?
2. MiB/Locke says two very interesting things:
- He wants to go home. Could he mean the Temple? The Others certainly seem to think he's headed their way.
- He's very disappointed in all of them (the beach others, I guess). Wonder what THAT means?
3. How'd they warp to 2007?!?! I guess I left this off the initial post because I doubt we'll ever get solid explanation, but c'mon! How'd it happen? Was there one last convenient Donkey Wheel skip? Was it Jacob's touch that warped them there when he died? Then how'd Juliet and Miles come along for the ride? (he never touched them that we've seen)
Any ideas?
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Episode 1 (& 2?): LA X
growing this rad season three finale Jack beard... it's the best I could do.
This was a pretty interesting episode. So Juliet detonating the bomb did work... or did it. Impossible to tell. I'll reserve too much judgment on the alternate timeline until I see where they take but for now it seems like a quirky, nostalgic way to see old characters and how ALL their lives would've been different. It's neat... but I'm not sure how impactful it will be to the entire story... I'm sure it will be though.
A few interesting things I did see from the alternate timeline:
-When we first saw Jack he almost had a look on his face like he knew something was... off. Also, what's with the bloody neck that he doesn't seem to know anything about.
- So the island is underwater now? Hmmm...
- What happened to Desmond? Did he just go back to his original seat? Seemed like there might be more to it.
- Why woulld Hurley's luck have changed, and how'd he win the lottery.
- Look's like Sawyer is gonna try and con Hurley.
- Something must be up with Christian's casket being missing... might lead to why their in this alternate timeline.
- And finally... I can only assume that THIS timeline is what Juliet was referring to when she wanted to tell James, "It worked". Question is how did she know that?
Ok... so on the island... back to normal time... or as normal as we're gonna get. A few things I noticed or ... whatever:
- First off, how'd they warp back to present day?
- I was actually a little bummed by the Sawyer/Juliet scene. Kind of ruined the finale scene from last year.
- Jacob had a plan for Hurley all along.
- Hurley gets 'em in with the Others @ the Temple. Maybe now we'll finally get soem more info on what the Others TRUE purpose is. Would also like to know how they convert people, like Cindy.
- Looks like the pool is dirty (probably cuz Jacob is dead) and it didn't heal the Asian bearded dude's hand... but it did ultimately save Sayid... right? Might have something to do with Jacob's touch. (also pretty sure this is where they saved Ben).
And on the other (no pun intended) side of the island:
- The Man in Black is the Smoke Monster, and it looks like the ash circles are to keep him out. Which makes me wonder even more about who broke the circle that gave him access to the cabin. (definitely leaning towards the MiB being the one who said "Heeelp Me" to Locke the first time we went there)
- Richard knows who he is... and MiB/Locke knows who Richard is... "Nice to see you out of those chains!" I'll bet Richard was a slave on the Black Rock.
That's really all I've got for now. We'll see where the alternate timeline goes... I've got faith.
What did you, the millions and millions of people who read this think?
Thursday, May 14, 2009
The REAL Episode Recap: The Incident
1) Jacob's visits
2) Lapidus, Ilana, Bram and the Statue freaks
3) Locke (or is he... DUN DUN DUUUUUN), Sun, Ben Richard and the Others
4) Sawyer, Juliette and Kate (soon to merge with Jack & Co)
5) Jack & Co.
I'll try and do it in that order... and add some plot points as well, so it's hopefully a little easier to follow. Here goes nothing... or everything.
1) Jacob's visits
So the first scene... CRAZY!!! Jacob and his "friend" hang out on the beach. Basically this scene is so insane there's nothing to say. What I gathered from it, (and we saw some of this later when Jacob touches all the losties), was Jacob brings people to the island in almost a sociological experiment to see if humanity... is... I dunno... ready? Maybe the island is the Garden of Eden. Anyway... this apparently disgusts his nemesis on the beach, and he wants to kill Jacob. Needs a loophole though. He found it. Are these the early stages of the rules? Like how Ben and Widmore can't kill each other? I think so. Looks liek Lost will be a classic battle of good vs. evil. But I'm not ready to say which side is which yet. Though I'm leaning more towards Jacob being a "good guy".
Couple things to note:
- Looked like the Black Rock in the distance to me. And I'll bet Richard, or should we say Ricardos, is a sailor on that boat. I'm hoping Season 6 begins with a Richard flashback where Jacob explains EVERYTHING to Richard. I think the audience would agree with me there!!!!!!
- The knife that Jacob used? Looks like we see it later... more on that.
- The statue definitely wasn't Anubis, and there are plenty of places online you can find who it is, I'm too lazy to link to them though.
So Jacob visits all of the losties in the past at various MAJOR moments in their lives and TOUCHES them:
1 - Kate... tells her not to steal
2- Sawyer... gives him the pen to write his letter
3 - Sayid... did he get Nadia killed or did he save Sayid?
4 - Ilana.... WHO? yeah she wasn't on the plane, but this might have been one of the more important ones. There seemed to be a previous relationship at their meeting, right? Why was she all messed up? I think we'll learn plenty more about her next season.
5 - Locke... Did he save his life? If so why? Did he not know that his reincarnated body would ultimately kill him?
6 - Jin and Sun... crashed their wedding (Jin's vows were like 12 words, and he needed to write them down? Stupid son of a lowly fisherman)
7 - Jack... gave Jack an Apollo bar after the famous count to 5 surgery, and had a curious line about Jack just needing a little push.
8 - Hurley... This visit rivals Ilana's in intrigue. Is Hurley destined for something larger in the grand island scheme? Think he got to say goodbye to his Ma & Pa? That guitar? i think it was symbolic of Charlie, and it helped get Ajira 316 closer to Oceanic 815... but it also pulled on Hugo's heart strings. Sorry.
Two people conspicuous by their absence in these certain flashbacks: Miles and Juliette. Wouldn't surprise me if the Miles touch scene was deleted or something, but Juliette had a flashback and Jacob was nowhere to be found. I think this spells real trouble for Juliette. Even if Jack's plan worked.
I'm guessing the Jacob touches will somehow keep them safe.
Not sure how this will work but the Incident happened.... more later.
2) Ilana and Co.
- They wonder if Lapidus is a worthy candidate. I'm guessing that's in reference to being on Jacob's list or not. (side note: remember in season 3 when Danny Pickett said Jack wasn't even on Jacob's List? Well was that list all a Ben lie or what?)
- Bram seems like a bit a of dumb ass to be in some enlightened group like this.
- Solid Lapidus reaction to seeing what lied in the box: "Terrific"
- They get to Jacob's Cabin... or is it his cabin. The ash ring around it is broken. So does that mean someone was allowed in or out now? More later. It's trashed and Jacob isn't there. But there's a piece of cloth (looks like the stuff that Jacob wove earlier) that's stabbed to the wall (with the knife Jacob had earlier). That leads them to the statue. I think Jacob left them a sign where he would be.
- Big question I have... didn't think of it until the second viewing. Ilana says someone else has been "using it" and they burn it down. Why bother burning it down unless there's some use to it? I'll bet there's a huge value or power in the cabin that we'll find out about at some point.
- They head to the beach. We'll catch up with them in Locke's story.
and...
3) Locke and Co.
- Why didn't Ben ever meat Jacob? If he wasn't supposed to, then why was he supposed to be the leader? Why did Richard go along with it for so long? Like when Ben originally took Locke to go meet Jacob. Richard didn't think hat was weird? I digress...
- Richard Alpert was made ageless somehow by Jacob. Let's see that flashback!
- Ben admits to faking the Jacob meeting. I actually believe him, cuz he's still scared of Smokey and dead Alex. Wonder what he'd do if he was sitting right next to him? more later...
- They get to the statue where Jacob lives, and Richard gets all whiny about Ben going in. What does Richard know and what doesn't he know? He knows what lies in the shadow of the statue!
- He who will save us... or something like that. That's what it means. And then... they dump dead Locke out on the beach. WHAT!?!?!? But that means...!?!?!??! In all seriousness.... I think that means Locke is dead. And that is lame.
- Ben kills Jacob after Jacob pretty much confirms that Ben isn't that important. Locke, who I think it's pretty clear, is being possessed by the dude from the beach just watches it happen. He found his loophole.
- Before Jacob dies he lets fake-Locke know that "They are coming". I'm guessing he's referring to all the people he touched. They're coming back to save him and the island.
So a few theories... or attempts at theories before we get to 1977. And since I've been rambling forever already, I'll probably repeat myself.
I'm gonna assume, and I reserve the right to change my mind, that all of the "dead" people we see on the island, were actually this dude. And HE is actually Smokey. All influencing people negatively either to prove Jacob wrong about humanity or to further his plot to kill Jacob.
on to the 70's
4) Sawyer and Co.
They bail on the sub to stop Jack but before they meet up with him... they meet up with...
Rose and Bernard... and VINCENT! Don't get me wrong. It was good to see that they were ok, but 3 things
1) They live 5 miles away from Dharmaville and no one found them? No way.
2) That's cool that you don't want to have anything to do with the Dharma Initiative, and you no longer want to associate with the other survivors, but it didn't change the fact that other people were worried about you. Insensitive.
3) Looks like it will be tough for Vincent to be reunited with Walt now.
I think this will be the last we see of Rose and Bernard, they'll live out their lives relatively happy until they move into the caves with black and white rocks in their pockets and die. they'll end up being Adam and Eve. I hope we get a scene proving this... but not sure how we would at this point.
5) Jack and Co.
Before we begin, anyone wonder why Faraday waited 8 or so hours before the Incident to let everyone know it was going to happen? Thanks dude. Fair planning all the way around.
- Richard mentions that Eloise is the leader after he knocks her out to get her out of there. I'll bet she was exiled, maybe due to Widmore! The Chuck takes over. Then Ben. Then Locke.
- Jack and Sayid get the bomb and leave thru Dharmaville. (side note: why the hell did Dharma build their city on these ruins and tunnels... plus they had to have known the bomb was there? Did they not inspect the are at all?)
- Another side note: Since they evacuated all the women and children, or non-essential personal. Wouldn't Amy and Ethan have been evacuated? How'd Ethan get back?
- Sayid gets shot. I'd be extra worried about him dying but... Roger Workman shot him. There's no way they're gonna let Sayid be killed by Roger frackin' Workman.
- Rad reaction shot from Jack though... once he sees Sayid go down, he turns into another Jack. That's right. Jack Bauer. He starts wiping people out before Hurley saves the day, once again, in a Dharma van. Jack gets a huge grin on his face. He does that a couple of times. Sort of cool.
- Jack and Sawyer go at it:
1) Sawyer sort of fights like a bitch. Nut shots? Come on dude.
2) Jack's Kate logic is a little off, but whatever.
3) No way Jack agrees to the 5 minute chat while Sayid is bleedin' out in the van,
- I think/hope Miles is right. This is how the incident went down. Bomb and all.
- Anyone else notice Chang pull the gun on Radzinksy? That should be an interesting day at work on Monday.
Soooo... the incident happens. And Juliette get sucked down the pit and ultimately launches the nuke. Very strong stuff from Halloway and Mitchell in these scenes. good stuff.
I think she'll be the only one who really dies. And that's sad. She led a pretty tragic life. I'll miss the character.
So what happens now?
I think the touching linked them to Jacob.
I think they will be warped back to present day where the war will begin in season 6. Jacob followers vs. Locke/evil dude and Ben. Ummm.... that's the best I got for now. There are way to many ... ahem... variables... and I have no clue where the show is going.
Great finale. Doesn't touch the season 3 finale if you ask me. But really strong.
I was gonna rewatch the seasons this summer anyway, but with the Jacob and his nemesis, and the limited info we now have about them... it'll be like watching new episodes.
I might do the questions/unanswered list again if I feel like it, so check back from time to time.
I didn't re-read this, or check for typos, so it might just be a fucking mess. If so, maybe I'll check it later and change it.
Anyway, great season. Just 8 more months until we can do it again. Thanks for reading.
If you read all this, you're just as dedicated (pathetic) as I am.